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The Flip Side of the Perfect Prius

Sometimes the cars accelerate on their own. Sometimes they stop dead. Drivers of the hybrid Prius have discovered they can be an unexpected adventure.

Bobette Riner publishes an electricity index used to promote renewable energy, and she bought a brand-new Prius last year to shoot the bird at the oil companies.

"I felt so smug for a while," she says. "Especially being in Houston."

Elizabeth James says her Prius surged out of control near Lawson, Colorado, sending her plunging into a river.
Courtesy of Elizabeth James
Elizabeth James says her Prius surged out of control near Lawson, Colorado, sending her plunging into a river.

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This story was prepared by SW's sister paper, the Houston Press. It includes reporting by SW intern Evi Sztajno in Seattle.

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She had been lucky to score the car from a dealership on Houston's south side, because for nearly a year there had been a three-month wait to get a Prius. The dealership couldn't even keep a model for the showroom.

The car had a "cute little body" that Riner loved, and she reveled in driving like a "nerdy Prius owner," watching the energy-usage display on the car's center console, trying to drain every possible mile from a gallon of gasoline. When she hit 2,000 miles, she could count her trips to a gas station on one hand.

On a rainy night last fall, a couple of months after Riner bought her Prius, she was driving toward the Houston Galleria for a sales meeting. She hated driving in the rain because a car wreck in college catapulted her through the windshield, and doctors almost had to amputate her leg.

Traffic near the mall was congested but moving, and Riner kept the Prius pegged at 60 mph, constantly looking at the console to manage her fuel consumption.

Suddenly she felt the car hydroplaning out of control, and when she glanced at the speedometer she realized the car had shot up to 84 mph. Riner wasn't hydroplaning; quite simply, her Prius had accelerated on its own.

She pushed on the brakes but they were dead. Then just as suddenly as the car had taken off, it shut down. The console lit up with warning lights, leaving Riner fighting a stiff steering wheel as she coasted across four lanes of traffic and down an exit ramp.

The car stopped near a PetSmart parking lot, and Riner sat in disbelief, listening to fat raindrops pelt the Prius, wondering if her new car had actually gone crazy.

The Prius is one of the great success stories of the past decade, becoming the one car synonymous with "hybrid" and helping Toyota drill into a skeptical American auto market while the Big Three failed and failed again to produce efficient vehicles. But from day one, it has come in for criticism as well. Early reports claimed that the manufacturing is so complex and uses so much energy that the Prius stomps out a troublingly deep carbon footprint.

Now another side of the Prius has orbited into view, as owners share horror stories on blogs and message boards about crashing their cars through forests, garage doors, and gas stations.

Take Lupe Egusquiza from Tustin, California. She was waiting in a line of cars in September 2007 to pick up her daughter from school when her Prius suddenly took off and crashed into the school's brick wall. Egusquiza reported $14,000 worth of damage to her car.

Or Stacey Josefowicz in Anthem, Arizona, who bought her new Prius in May 2007. A couple of months later, driving down a four-lane highway toward a stoplight, she stepped on the brakes but nothing happened. She freaked, then weaved into a turning lane, coasting to a Target parking lot with the brake pedal jammed to the floor. A Toyota technician told her she ran out of gas, but she objected that that wasn't true; there was fuel in the car. Still, he returned her Prius to her with no repairs.

A month later, she sped through a stop sign when the brakes went out again. "I think they thought, 'She's a woman driver, she obviously let the car run out of gas,'" Josefowicz says. "Thank God I didn't get killed or cause an accident; it would have been on their head."

Or Herbert Kuehn from Battle Creek, Michigan. In October 2005, his Prius sped out of control on a highway before he "labored" the car to a stop on the gravel shoulder of the road. He was so scared of his Prius that he stopped driving it, but "under good conscience did not feel that I could sell it."

Jaded Prius owners say there's no resolution with Toyota—through their hometown dealer or corporate arbitration—and the company hasn't lost or settled a single lawsuit concerning "unintended acceleration."

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has two Prius investigations in its database from 2004 and 2005, but those involved the car's cooling system. During a recall of floor mats used in other Toyota models, Prius owners were simply cautioned to make sure their floor mats were properly installed. [NOTE: This paragraph has been corrected since the story was first posted. The story originally said that Toyota had recalled faulty floor mats in the Prius.] Another explanation from Toyota is simple driver error.

"You get these customers that say, 'I stood on the brake with all my might and the car just kept on accelerating.' They're not stepping on the brake," says Toyota corporate spokesman Bill Kwong. "People are so under stress right now, people have so much on their minds. With pagers and cell phones and IM, people are just so busy with kids and family and boyfriends and girlfriends. So you're driving along and the next thing you know you're two miles down the road and you don't remember driving, because you're thinking about something else."

Most owners, like Riner, deny they were mistaken about where the brake pedal is. At the same time, most aren't looking to sue; they say they just want an explanation and a fair deal.

As Ted James from Eagle, Colorado, puts it (his Prius ended up in a river), "We're not the kind of people to go through a lawsuit, and it's not in our nature. Our concern was that no one else got hurt, that Toyota own up to its problem."

From 2000, when the Prius was introduced in the U.S., through last year, about 1.3 million hybrids sold in the country, according to numbers from the U.S. Department of Energy; Priuses accounted for more than half those sales. But if things had gone as planned, American carmakers could have been dominating the hybrid market.

In 1993, the Clinton administration developed the Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles, awarding federal funds to Chrysler, Ford, and General Motors and giving them access to federal research agencies. The goal was to develop a car that got more than three times the gas mileage of full-sized vehicles already on the road.

Toyota was left out of the New Generation program, but it responded in 1994 by officially starting Project G21, a program to develop an environmentally friendly car. Three years later, the first Prius was released in Japan.

Chrysler, Ford, and GM still hadn't shown any New Generation prototypes by the end of the decade, but an unveiling was scheduled for January 2000 at Detroit's North American International Auto Show.

Heralded in newspaper accounts as a possible breakthrough, some of the designs certainly were radical, but, as it turns out, actually were just for dreamers. Each company rolled out a New Generation car, but after the show the prototypes disappeared from public view.

The federal government had already fed more than $1 billion to the three automakers—at a time when the American manufacturers were still highly profitable—with few results. The New Generation program was a failure at best; Ralph Nader called it "corporate welfare at its worst."

The project was killed by the Bush administration in 2002.

Meanwhile, Toyota was priming the U.S. market for the Prius, led by David Hermance, now known as the Father of the American Prius.

Hermance, who lived in Gardena, California, worked as the top hybrid engineer at Toyota when the car was released in the U.S. in 2000, and while he didn't have a hand in designing the first-generation Prius—it was strictly Japanese engineering—he furiously promoted and explained the car's technology to the media and legislators.

In a 2004 interview with the Web site www.hybridcars.com, Hermance said his involvement with the Prius was an environmental mission for him, even if it wasn't for "the mainstream marketing folks."

"I'm convinced that global warming is real, and that if we're not principally responsible, we're at least contributing to that," he told the interviewer. "I'd like to leave the planet a little better than I found it."

The second-generation Prius, the model in production today, was directly engineered by Hermance, and he focused on making the car fun and peppy; his designs and marketing are credited with breaking the car into the mainstream. The new Prius was released in 2004, winning the Motor Trend Car of the Year award and a heap of other accolades.

A year later, Toyota sold 100,000 Priuses for the first time, and sales more than doubled each of the first two years the second generation was built.

"He was just a brilliant engineer and was really for the hybrid. He educated a lot of people," Kwong says.

Hermance died in the fall of 2006 when he crashed his airplane into the Pacific Ocean.

Celebrities like Leonardo DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz drove the Prius from the beginning, but in 2003 Toyota hired a public-relations firm to "bring Hollywood stars and Prius cars together [at the Oscars], replacing the gas-guzzling stretch limo as the ride of choice for eco-aware celebrities," according to a Prius newsletter. Diaz, Harrison Ford, Calista Flockhart, Susan Sarandon, and Tim Robbins arrived in chauffeured Priuses.

Celebrities drove other hybrids, too, but the Prius had the advantage of being ugly.

"People were buying hybrids as a fashion statement. What's the good of driving something you paid extra for, because you think you're saving the universe, and nobody knows it?" says Art Spinella, co-founder and president of CNW Marketing Research, headquartered in Bandon, Oregon. "One of the things we found with the Honda Accord hybrid—they stopped producing it—was that people complained because it wasn't visible enough."

In 2007, The New York Times published data from a CNW report that said almost 60 percent of Prius owners bought the car because it "makes a statement about me." For its other hybrids, Toyota made the "Hybrid Synergy Drive" badges on the outside of the cars 25 percent bigger, hoping to cash in on the Prius effect.

"The Prius is kind of a gimmicky car. Toyota originally designed it for young geeks in Tokyo: gadget-crazy young guys," says Jim Hood, a writer who worked for the Associated Press for 15 years and covered the automotive industry for part of that time. "Then the crazy Americans fell for it."

Gas mileage is another big draw for the Prius, and "hypermilers" take that to the extreme. Dan Bryant, a computer engineer in Houston, is a self-admitted Prian—a name fanatic Prius owners affectionately call themselves. He's turned driving his car into a full-time hobby. He installed aftermarket gauges and an engine kill-switch—ordered from Japan—that makes driving seem like playing a video game, Bryant says, with the goal of getting the most mileage from a tank of fuel.

He's constantly shifting the car into neutral, switching off the engine, and looking at his gauges to track things like pressure on the gas pedal and engine temperature, both of which affect gas mileage. Bryant coasts into stops without brakes when he can. He usually averages about 60 to 70 miles per gallon, but he got 91 out of his best tank and took a picture to prove it.

"When you're only buying 40 gallons of gas [a month], $2 a gallon or $5 a gallon is basically the difference between eating out a couple nights," Bryant says. "The biggest thing about it was that we didn't really notice it."

Many auto reviewers have also raved about the Prius. In 2008, the car ranked second in overall quality in a survey by J.D. Power and Associates, and it won the IntelliChoice Best in Overall Value award in its class.

Pete Bednar, the fleet and communications manager for the city of Bellevue, says the Prius is "one of the lowest-maintenance vehicles we have." The city owns seven of the cars, and Bednar says they're a good fit for white-collar staff, though not as useful for building inspectors and others who need to haul a lot of gear and climb in and out of the vehicle all day. (For them, the city has opted for the Ford Escape hybrid.) "I deal with fleet managers around the state, and we have not seen a lot of issues with Priuses," says Bednar. "They've held up really well."

Several Seattle-area mechanics also described the car as "great."

Ted James was a believer, not only in the Prius but also in Toyota.

About the time the Prius was released in America, James, a middle-school math teacher from Eagle, Colorado, received a $10,000 Toyota Time grant, awarded to 35 math teachers around the country to develop inventive programs. James used his money to buy equipment to monitor local water quality, and his students used math to analyze the data.

In 2002, Toyota paid for James, along with the other Time winners, to travel to company headquarters in Torrance, California, and talk about their projects. One day during a lunch break, Toyota executives introduced the group to the Prius. Each teacher was outfitted with one of the hybrids for a day of driving around Torrance.

"I thought they were the coolest thing ever," James says. He and his wife Elizabeth, who teaches at an elementary school, bought their first Prius three years later.

"I was very proud because we were the first teachers in the parking lot to be sporting a Prius," he says.

On August 10, 2006, Elizabeth was driving the car east on Interstate 70 toward Denver to catch an early-morning flight. Near the small town of Lawson, she pressed the brakes to slow down, and when she let off the pedal, the Prius took off. The car wouldn't slow down "no matter how hard I pressed on the brake," so Elizabeth used her left foot to slam down the emergency brake. Nothing.

The brakes spewed blue smoke from the back of the car, and when Elizabeth glanced down, the speedometer read 90 mph and the Prius was rocketing toward a car in the slow lane. Gripping the steering wheel with both hands, she whipped the car around along the shoulder of the interstate, exited the Lawson ramp, ran a stop sign, passed a couple of people walking in the road, and steered into a grassy field when the feeder cut to the left.

"She said she felt like the pilot of a plane that was trying to crash-land," Ted says. "So she was looking for a place to crash the car, and that was one of the things that were really tough: She thought she was going to die and had enough time to think about it."

The Prius sped through a wooded area, clipped a weather monitoring shed, flipped, and landed in a river.

Elizabeth survived the wreck, but her legs and back were banged up and she's still hobbled, despite a year of physical therapy. Scar tissue on her intestines requires her to drink MiraLAX for the rest of her life to ease stomach pains.

After the crash, Ted enlisted the help of a childhood friend, attorney Kent Spangler (who practiced family law at the time and now is a magistrate in Fort Collins, Colorado), to steer the Jameses through arbitration with Toyota. They wanted Elizabeth's medical bills—about $15,000—paid, and to have the smashed Prius examined for a cause of the wreck.

"You'd think Toyota would be interested in how their car functioned in that crash," Ted says. "My wife's brother and sister owned Priuses, and we were really worried that this could happen to someone else. Toyota's whole reaction was really disconcerting. It was like, deny everything."

Toyota's response was in fact minimal. In a letter to Ted, the company blamed the problem on excessive brake wear, stating "We are sure she believes that her vehicle accelerated on its own; but our inspection of her vehicle did not reveal any evidence to support her allegations."

Bobette Riner's experience wasn't much better. When her Prius died in front of the parking lot, she composed herself and started the car again because she desperately needed to make her sales meeting. The Prius sputtered along for about a quarter-mile before shutting down again "at a spot where people coming from the Galleria couldn't totally plow into me." The Toyota dealership where she'd bought the car sent a tow truck and the driver took Riner to her meeting.

"I ended up being an hour and 20 minutes late, and only one guy stuck around, so I missed that opportunity," Riner says.

The next day she went to the dealership to find out what had happened with her car, and the technician told her, "We know what's wrong with it; you were out of gas."

Riner was shocked because she was certain her gas tank wasn't close to empty, and she wasn't concerned that the Prius had shut down; it was the sudden jolt of speed that scared her.

"That was more than being out of gas," Riner says. "How do you explain it suddenly being 84 mph?"

Stories from other Prius owners involving unintended acceleration are fairly common, and one of the first places to publish them was the Web site www.consumeraffairs.com, which each day collects about 400 complaints that are read by editors and stored in an online database.

"One of the trends we started to see was that there were odd things going on with the Prius, not only with the acceleration but with loss of traction on slippery surfaces," says Hood, the former Associated Press writer who now owns the Web site. "The Prius was something a little different when it came out, so we paid a little more attention to it than if it was a brand-new pickup or something."

The site's automotive writer, Joe Benton, wrote about unintended acceleration for the first time in the summer of 2007, telling the story of a woman in Everett whose Prius took off while she was on the freeway and wouldn't slow down even as she repeatedly pumped the brakes.

Hood received hate mail from Prius owners when the negative story was posted. "They're zealots and religious about their cars," Hood says. "Quite honestly, we don't give a damn about anything. If people want to drive those things, fine by us, but our job is to criticize and nitpick."

Then other horror stories rolled in.

One came from Richard Bacon, a Tacoma resident who wrote, "This week our 2008 Prius tried to kill me twice." First, Bacon's Prius died while he was driving up his snowy driveway, causing him to slide into oncoming traffic "that just missed hitting me broadside."

Then, driving with his wife and merging into traffic at 45 mph, he crossed a patch of snow. The Prius locked up, and Bacon lost control and skidded toward a 30-foot drop down the side of the road. "Only a snowbank kept my wife and me from serious injury or death," he wrote.

Toyota sent out the caution about the Prius's floor mats about two months after the first story on Hood's Web site. [This sentence has been corrected since it was first posted. See correction described above.] From a company press release: "If properly secured, the All Weather Floor Mat will not interfere with the accelerator pedal. Suggested opportunities to check are after filling the vehicle's tank with gasoline, after a carwash or interior cleaning, or before driving the vehicle. Under no circumstances should more than one floor mat ever be used in the driver's seating position: The retaining hooks are designed to accommodate only one floor mat at a time."

But floor mats don't explain why many of the Priuses took off, including the case of the Houston man who parked his Prius in his driveway but left the car running as he walked toward his house. The Prius surged forward through his garage door, slamming into the back of his Nissan Altima.

"It was a pretty rough accident," says Markus Drunk, a mechanic who worked on the Prius at Autohaus K&H in Houston. "He was lucky that the Altima was parked there, because his backyard is not too long, and the neighbors had a family gathering. It would've ran right into all those people, and he was a little shook up over the situation."

Then there's Kevin McGuire, who test-drove a Prius one afternoon last fall—a year after the safety notice—at Dorschel Toyota in Rochester, New York.

"There was a wait list to buy one, but they happened to have one in the showroom for me to drive," he says. "The saleswoman was very knowledgeable on the vehicle, and I was impressed with the car. Everything seemed to be in order."

The weather was crisp and sunny, and with the saleswoman along for the ride, McGuire drove the Prius away from the city to a hillside road without much traffic. As he recalls the conversation:

"What do you think?" the saleswoman asked.

"I like this feel," McGuire said.

"Well, go ahead and jump on it and see what you think about the acceleration."

McGuire stomped on the gas pedal and the Prius zipped forward, but when he took his foot off the accelerator, the car kept going faster. He turned to the saleswoman.

"This is all well and good, but there's one problem," McGuire told her.

"What?!"

"It's not stopping."

"What?"

"Lookit, we're still going."

"Take your foot off the accelerator," she told him.

"I did!"

"Pull over!"

McGuire hesitated to steer the car off the road, because he was slamming on the brake with all his weight and the Prius wouldn't stop. Smoke poured from the tires, and finally the car shut down and he pulled to the shoulder.

"She was scared and I was scared, too. We just sat there for a couple of minutes and caught our breath, and then she said, 'OK, start it up,'" McGuire says. "You could hear the engine rev up, and when I put it in drive—boom! The car took off again."

This time the car died almost immediately and McGuire pulled over again. After starting it a third time, all was OK, and he cautiously drove back to the dealership. The saleswoman asked a technician to look at the Prius.

"Oh, people put in too many floor mats," the technician said. "So the accelerator gets stuck."

McGuire responded, "Wait, this is not my car, this is your car. I haven't done anything. It's not me, there's something wrong with this car."

Our reporting found just one person currently in litigation with Toyota concerning unintended acceleration. Art Robinson, the man involved in that 2007 crash, wouldn't discuss the situation (saying his lawyer has advised him not to), but a Toyota spokeswoman confirmed the lawsuit, declining to comment further.

Apparently, hours after Robinson purchased his used 2005 Prius in Tacoma, the car began to handle funny, and as he was driving back to the dealership, the car took off. Robinson stomped on the brake and the emergency brake, but the car wouldn't slow down.

He exited the freeway and shot through an intersection safely, but then lost control and drove through a convenience store. Robinson escaped before the Prius and the building burst into flames.

"It happened so fast I didn't have time to be scared then," Robinson told KING5 News.

Despite Elizabeth James' injuries, the couple never pursued a lawsuit against Toyota, and even if they wanted to, the Colorado statute of limitations ran out last summer.

"I'm not out to get Toyota; we owned three Toyota vehicles at one time, and we still have a 2000 Sienna and a 2006 Corolla that we'll drive until they die because they're good cars," Ted James says. "The fact that she could crash at 90 miles an hour, well, she'll say, 'First the Prius tried to kill me, and then it saved my life.'"

It doesn't take much of a pitch to sell a Prius, says Johnny "J-Mac" McFolling, a salesman at Houston's Mike Calvert Toyota.

McFolling wouldn't drive a Prius, he says, because he's a big man and everyone in his family is big too, but he loved the car when they all sold at "sticker price or higher."

"You can tell a Prius owner, not by looking at them, but as soon as they start talking," McFolling says. "You don't have to sell a Prius; they're already sold when someone comes through that door."

Those buyers haven't been around much in the past six months, and McFolling says Prius sales have dropped 90 percent since lastsummer while Toyota truck sales have increased. The dealership was selling 25 Priuses a month and could've moved more if Toyota had delivered them, but those days are gone.

Mike Calvert sold Riner her Prius, but after the technician told her the car took off because she was low on gas, she wanted nothing to do with it. The dealer offered about $12,000 less than what she'd paid for the car, explaining he couldn't sell a Prius to save his life.

"He said, 'The market is soft for Priuses because of gas prices,'" Riner says.

The other owners of runaway Priuses have fared differently:

After his wild test drive, McGuire walked away from the Prius but was determined to buy Toyota. He got a Camry that rattles more than any American car he's owned, and he says he won't buy Toyota again.

The Jameses kept their mangled Prius for as long as possible, hoping Toyota would take it to a laboratory for examination, but when their insurance company pressured them, they let it go. Ted James bought a new Volkswagen Jetta six-speed, so if it goes wild, "all you have to do is push in the clutch."

The Prius that Riner bought brand-new sat in her garage for a while because she hoped Toyota would change its mind about its offer. She just recently set an arbitration date with the company, and given the option of meeting at a dealership or fighting the case through the mail, she chose not to meet.

Unless she eats the $12,000, she's stuck with a car she's afraid to drive.

paul.knight@houstonpress.com

 
  • Alexander 02/23/2010 5:54:00 AM

    In light of current Prius recalls, some of the comments are absolutely hilarious! Thank you for the laugh! A sample size of one or two is not representative of the overall quality of a product. Just because YOUR Prius didn't have problems doesn't mean there weren't problems. Conversely, if only one or two people had unintended acceleration, than it might not be a problem -- but the whole point of the article was to try and establish a trend by showing a sample size larger than one. Turns out the article was right. Eat crow and be glad your Prius didn't misbehave?

  • jo 02/09/2010 12:48:00 PM

    Every single prius needs to be banned crushed and destroyed. Who on earth would market such and ugly, fugly awful terrible, stupid looking car. Every time I see one, I would like to crush them with a giant hammer. Darrrnn, those are some ugly @ss thingies. Just dumb and stupid, why would anytone be seen driving such and ugly piece of junk, sorry, but those cars annoy me badly, I don't know what it is, but everytime I see one I feel irritated, sounds crazy, but I just don't know why, they are truly Fugly. They are as horrible as the old Plymouth Pacer in the 70's. Recall all of those ugly Priuses and crush em'. Geeze, what idiot made up that design, he/she should be fired!

  • Irene 08/05/2009 11:16:00 PM

    Dont believe these stories........they are all lies...from other car companies. They dont want competition. None of these stories even make sense, blue smoke coming out from the brake? stepping w/ you left foot on the emergency brake? the prius has a button for the emergency brake not a pedal, and where the hell do you get blue smoke from the back? the prius brakes in the front first and then the back...FAKE STORIES

  • Sandy 06/29/2009 3:50:00 AM

    I call BS to most of this article , I have owned 2 so far and non of these things have ever happened to me or any others on my forum, I think the need to learn how to drive.

  • Mitch Friedman 05/18/2009 11:01:00 PM

    I don't know why the writer has so much attitude or grudge, but this article is awful. I am right now selling a 2002 Prius on which we put almost 200,000 flawless mile. The car ran great, runs great, still gets over 50 mpg, is still on its original electronics (including battery), and the only part we've had to replace was front brakes. Permormance, safety, efficiency, comfort - it has it all. I'm selling the 2002 because we just bought a 2009 model. After reading this article, I tested to see whether, with the fancy electronic transmission, I can shift into neutral while driving. NO PROBLEM! In other words, if my (or any) Prius ever gets some ghost in its accelerator, the driver can simply shift it out of gear and coast. There. Done. 95% of this bogus article is now mute. What's left of the article? Apart from the suggestion that Prius drivers are smug, or that Toyota might be guilty of actually promoting this quality product it had the wisdom to design, there's the minor issue of the article suggesting that the manufacture of the Prius is so energy-intensive that it cancels out the benefits of its operating effeciency to have a net carbon footprint rivalling an SUV. That's a huge accusation. It's something I'd want to know a lot more about. But no, the writer didn't support that bomb with any fact, studies, references, links. So consider this: If we had driven those same 200,000 miles in a car that got half the mpg that our '02 Prius got (which would still be better than most SUVs), we would have burned an additional 4,000 or more gallons. My advice to the author: shut up and buy my old Prius.

  • Kay 05/07/2009 8:10:00 AM

    I own an 1983 Mercedes diesel and I've owned cars made in Japan. The cars made in Japan were a huge headache and not that well made. I spent tons of money on repair bills. I"ll stick with German engineering or American engineering. One reason why the German car makers offer diesel cars is because there is no oil in Germany. One of Hitler's goals was to secure the Middle Eastern oil. My Mercedes gets great mileage and it can run on biodiesel. I can drive to Denver 400 miles on one tank of diesel. I've got 181k on my engine so it should last another 400k miles before it needs a rebuild. What America needs to do is develop biodiesel from switch grass, alagee or hemp and make a fuel that doesn't pollute. I don't need to convert my car to run on biodiesel. I could convert my car to run on recycled fast food grease too, but I need to save up for the kit. This electric car stuff seems to be a big hassle and a waste of energy to develop.

  • Bob W. 05/05/2009 12:47:00 AM

    This past Friday (May 1), my 2006 Prius suffered unintended accelaration. I was stopped at a traffic light. When I began to lift my foot from the brake, the engine revved and the car tried to accelarate. Fortunately, I jammed my foot back down on the brake. I then tried letting pressure off again. The same thing happened. I checked the floor mat. It was nowhere near the gas pedal. Finally, I toggled the cruise control on and off. The problem stopped. This isn't the first time I have had this problem. This has occured several times in the past. On those occasions I was at the ramp control light on I90 and when the light turned green, I took my foot off the brake and the car surged forward. Later, I chalked it off to me not realizizing I hit the gas. Last Friday, I had no such illusion. The car is at the dealer today. The service manager verifed that my floor mat could not cause the problem. The challenge the dealer faces is reproducing the problem. I doubt they will be able to. This leaves me with a serious lack of trust with my car. I really do love the Prius. It's a joy to own and drive. I hope this problem can be solved.

  • Chris 05/04/2009 2:16:00 AM

    So if I am understanding correctly, a driver that does not like to drive in the rain is driving in the rain, is in a hurry to get to a meeting, and is driving at 60 MPH. The driver is fixated on the meeting in the dash to the point where she doesn't even take care of the basics such as minding her fuel levels. The car speeds up as if it was hydroplaning but she somehow knows for certain that she wasn't hydroplaning, the the car goes dead because it had no fuel, but she somehow knows for certain that it did have fuel. Then when given a chance to meet at the dealership to discuss the matter, she said no. Um. Yeah.

  • dave 05/02/2009 2:31:00 AM

    The Toyota Prius = the Barack Obama of cars...

  • TERRY DE EULIS 04/29/2009 9:39:00 AM

    WHAT IS INTERESTING TO NOTE HERE IS THAT TOYOTA KEEPS SAYING THAT IF THE BRAKES DON'T WORK, YOU'VE RUN OUT OF GAS. DO YOU SEE THAT? THEY ARE SAYING THAT IF A PRIUS RUNS OUT OF GAS, THE BRAKES WON'T WORK. WHAT A STUPID WAY TO DESIGN A CAR!

  • Gabriel 04/29/2009 4:27:00 AM

    Responding to #19. I don't know a whole lot about the Ford and Saturn Hybrids but I have been a Toyota technician, parts consultant, and service advisor. I don't know where in the world you got the information on the lifespan of the hybrid batteries but we routinely get Priuses with 150k+ on them with no hybrid batteries needed (excluding collisions...) Having said that, it does have a large carbon footprint and you can buy an efficient car for less. The Toyota Yaris starts about 13k and gets 40+mpg. We paint more Prius bumpers than any other car. The drivers seem so thrilled with the interactive screen they don't watch the road. This article implies the car is likely to drive itself to it's own demise which is untrue and ridiculous.

  • Gabriel 04/29/2009 4:27:00 AM

    Responding to #19. I don't know a whole lot about the Ford and Saturn Hybrids but I have been a Toyota technician, parts consultant, and service advisor. I don't know where in the world you got the information on the lifespan of the hybrid batteries but we routinely get Priuses with 150k+ on them with no hybrid batteries needed (excluding collisions...) Having said that, it does have a large carbon footprint and you can buy an efficient car for less. The Toyota Yaris starts about 13k and gets 40+mpg. We paint more Prius bumpers than any other car. The drivers seem so thrilled with the interactive screen they don't watch the road. This article implies the car is likely to drive itself to it's own demise which is untrue and ridiculous.

  • priusowner 04/29/2009 1:43:00 AM

    As a owner of two, I do have a few observations: 1) The tires that toyota supplies are a danger in the rain I replaced my with a different model and have had no problems since 2) The power switch/key, throttle, and shift are all soft switches, if the computer were to flake out, none of them would respond. The brakes are hydralic and should still work, but the traction control might interfere somewhat. without getting out of the care and under the hood, I have no idea how to shut it down if all of the above were to fail. 3) I had several friends with audis..great cars all errors there were either user error or deliberate fraud by CBS, so I am more than a bit skeptical here as well.

  • Joe 04/28/2009 10:57:00 PM

    I have never owned a Pirus but I have owned two Toyota cars. As someone said eariler they are machines and will break. Both of the Toyota cars i owned gave me problems, one was a constant fight to keep it from overheating and the other had an oil pump failure in the first 1000 miles from new. Toyota is not perfect. I own a Chevy Cavalier and get 40 mpg all day long on the interstate if I use the cruise, I paid half of what a Pirus costs, can get it worked on anywhere, have over 140,000 miles with $600.00 total in repairs for the life of the car. Buy the expensive hybrid if you wish but I will continue to drive a poor quality, wastefull bad american made chevy for pennies per mile.

  • Mark Fefer 04/28/2009 10:52:00 PM

    #11 you are right: "Toyota never recalled the floormats on the Prius." Thank you for pointing out this error. We will correct the story.

  • Momma 04/28/2009 9:23:00 PM

    I love everything about the Prius, except for: having to pay several thousand dollars more than a non-hybrid equivalent; the pollution I save by driving a Prius is offset by the pollution created in building a Prius; the pollution and cost savings I may have gained over 7-10 years are again offset when I have to pay $3,000 for a new battery; unexpected accelerations and abrupt engine shutdowns out of nowhere; and dealing with an automaker that will stonewall any discussions about these problems. Other than that, the Prius is great, if I was in the market for a small, overpriced 5-seater. The Prius is the perfect symbol of image over substance.

  • Tom 04/28/2009 9:07:00 PM

    Nice. My favorite line is..."the manufacturing is so complex and uses so much energy that the Prius stomps out a troublingly deep carbon footprint." It's all I can do to keep my accelerator on my Yukon XL(not some sissy flex fuel one either) from sticking whenever I have a Prius in front of me!!!

  • Matt Sobel 04/28/2009 7:23:00 PM

    This smells of 60 minutes.... funny how they don't pick up on this story to help them feel better about their Audi 5000 fiasco. More Prius owners with these problems because they know less about cars then the average Audi owner did... as in which pedal is to go and which is to stop.

  • Bob 04/28/2009 6:12:00 PM

    I'm an engineer and have more than 30 years of driving experience. The idiots are the ones blaming the drivers. This problem sounds like the "drive by wire" electronic throttle, which is essentially a potentiometer (variable resistor) gone haywire. It happens. That's why I won't buy a car with this system. And I've had what appeared to be a stuck throttle, but was in fact a stuck AIS (Air Idle Speed) motor on the throttle body. The car ran for more than a mile on level ground at 40 mph without touching the throttle. Fortunately I know what to do and put the clutch in (you can also put it in neutral). It then revved over 3000 RPMs for more than 30 seconds before gradually slowing down. Toyota has a history of hiding and denying problems to appear to be the best in quality. I'm amazed that these people continue to drive their products after this experience.

  • JuanPablo 04/28/2009 8:50:00 AM

    To slightly change the subject, still focusing on gas-electric hybrid vehicles, will anyone comment about these: 1) Those large batteries average a REcharging-life of about 4-to-6 years. 2) Those large rechargable replacement batteries, depending on specific vehicles, can (replacement) cost 4000 to 6000 dollers. 3) Seems to me that that 4000 to 6000 bucks could purchase a heck of alot of actual fuel than what a hybrid owner would be able to "save" over a 4 to 6 year time period of owning a similar-size NON-hybrid vehicle. Inquiring minds would like to know; I am consider for purchase the hybrid Saturn, Ford Escape, and Mercury Mariner.

  • Joe 04/28/2009 8:09:00 AM

    BEAUTIFUL ARTICLE!!! Congratulations on taking on Toyota's golden child. Challenging the untouchable Prius. For too long has our country been brainwashed by this false sense of "quality", and worse yet; the "green" value of the Prius. It's ALL FALSE. Studies have shown that the car does more harm to the environment just during the manufacturing process than a Hummer does in it's entire operational life. On top of that, now the demonic car drives on its own!! Wake up AMERICA!!! Toyota is not perfect. The butt-ugly Prius is not perfect...it's a farce, a lie, and too many have fallen for it! Wake up!!! All cars are machines liable to break due to the inherent errors in the human species that developed them. Toyota, Honda, etc are no exception. All cars will last for hundreds of thousands of miles if you take care of them. Given that FACT -- why not support your own country instead of the one that attacked Pearl Harbor 50 years ago? Buy AMERICAN! Again - GREAT article. I hope to see many more like it very soon.

  • LibsRNuts 04/28/2009 7:43:00 AM

    Charlie had it right, most drivers are idiots, particularly the smug libs who buy a Prius. Libs are never satisfied, always sniveling about something. Funny this story never mentioned the complaining of just a few years ago about the Prius not getting the mileage as advertised. One thing I have yet to read about the Prius is what will be done with the batteries when they need to be changed. Will they end up as a toxic mess somewhere? With libs suing claiming they didn't know? How many libs will pay to have them replaced? or will this just become another throw away item because it is too expensive to fix? Hopefully this will not become the next "stimulus" plan...some liberal demanding a check from the taxpayers to replace their batteries.

  • Jeanne 04/28/2009 7:04:00 AM

    I work in a Toyota service department and see hundreds of Priuses each month. My colleagues and I discussed this article today, and none of us have encountered this acceleration issue from any of our clients. I have, however, personally encountered customers whose engines were racing (both hybrid and non-hybrid) because the rubber floor mat had shoved forward and was causing the gas pedal to stick down with friction. Similarly, the brake pedal may not respond if the floor mat is wedged under the pedal, preventing the pedal from having its full range of travel. These perceived acceleration problems can happen with any kind of vehicle, as the many comments about Audi in the 80's prove. The difference with the Prius is that folks are paying closer attention. It is newer technology. It is different technology. We tend to jump to conclusions when something is new and different.

  • Waldo 04/28/2009 1:42:00 AM

    Looks like a lot of people trying to defend their precious Prius. These things happen, I had that problem ONCE in my 2001 Mitsubishi Galant, I put the car in neutral, shut the engine off, waited a bit, and it ran fine after that. A relative of mine had a similar problem with a Crown Vic. Same solution. People need to think for themselves, and remember emergency procedures for the car. No it is not good for the car to put it in neutral and have that engine redline - but that is better than being an idiot and killing someone.

  • Rhonda Dorian 04/28/2009 12:54:00 AM

    I have to say that this is one of those claims that I want to see happen. I own a Prius live in the rainy Norhtwest and drive 50+ miles per day. Not only have I not ever experienced this, I have driven in rain, snow, sleet and hail without ever experiencing a single problem. I have had to swere out of trouble on numerous occasions and felt very safe. I fill up once a week and drive 400 mile per tank which is less them many get but I am a very happy Prius owner. Cost of ownership is less than any car I have owned and believe Toyota is to be commended for their outstanding engineering.

  • Randy 04/27/2009 9:54:00 PM

    A question to the people who posted comment. Who is a paid blogger and who is not?

  • Andy 04/27/2009 8:28:00 PM

    The worrying thing about this is that unlike other cars (including the infamous Audis from the 80s) almost every control is electronic. The ignition and gear selector have no actual physical connection that you can rely on. If the electronics go goofy, they will do nothing at all no matter how much you try. Even worse than that is the dealer's response: "A Toyota technician told her she ran out of gas" One can only hope that the tech was making this up. Otherwise are we to really accept a car that will not stop if you run out of gas?!?

  • Gabriel 04/27/2009 8:25:00 PM

    This article is beyond hype and well into inaccurate and misleading. I have worked in a Toyota service dept. since 2004 and would like to inject some reality. First, the Prius has a bladder in the gas tank and when the gas gets very low it is possible for people to run out of gas when they often think they have a little left. This bladder tank is to be more green. When the car runs out of gas it will stop. Breaking news! So will every other car. Second, Toyota never recalled the floormats on the Prius as the poorly researched article stated. The all weather floormats on the Camry were recalled and I have had gas sticking complaints on the Camry, Corolla, Avalon, and Prius when people put in 2, 3, or even 4 sets of floormats. Again a driver caused issue not specific to the Prius. As an example, the last complaint I had about a vehicle taking off by itself and causing damage to the vehicle was a Tundra. The guest was very upset and proceeded to demonstrate the problem as his tilted sideways foot was pressing both the gas and the brake when only the brake was intended. I'm thinking that it's not unsafe hybrid technology that was causing his problem.

  • JR 04/27/2009 7:29:00 PM

    I've owned a Prius since early 2004 and have never had a hint of the problems expressed in this article. I would expect that there would be reproducable evidence of the condition if in fact it was a manufacturing defect....

  • Bobcat 04/27/2009 4:16:00 PM

    I've owned 1/2 a dozen Toyotas since the 70s. They've been good cars and trucks. Toyota has had minor problems and stonewalled or used "secret warranties". I've never owned a Prius but known lots of people who do. I've not heard acceleration or brake failure stories but that's not to say they don't happen. This is a complex vehicle with more computer control than most vehicles. There could be software issues. Toyota had better not blow this off, scolding people for floor mats, running out of gas, stomping the wrong pedal or nt paying attention. This issue already has legs.

  • Tom Foxx 04/27/2009 3:45:00 PM

    I saw a common thread with most of these, even the uncontrolled acceleration. what sort of TCS does this have? it sounds like the Traction Control is faulty in some rare cases. if it's locking out the brakes on slippery surfaces, then there's that. if it's keeping brakes from engaging, that could also explain going faster than one thinks. Toyota, you're my second favourite car company. don't brush this off!

  • HoosierPrius 04/27/2009 3:13:00 PM

    I am really glad to see that so many people recall the "Sudden Acceleration" issue that ended up being total bs. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the headline. This is not proof by any means but our Prius is nearing 5 years old with over 150k miles and never a single mechanical or electrical issue. That makes it difficult for me to believe the stories of the people in this article.

  • AS 04/27/2009 2:03:00 PM

    Another "journalist" trying to create hype by introducing another Audi situation to destroy a good car company. You could set back hybrid adoption another 10-15 years with all the dopes who will believe your story. Shame on you.

  • Hybrid Downer 04/27/2009 11:09:00 AM

    Wow, this article says a lot more about Prius drivers than it does about the cars. Quiz time: Your throttle sticks open, do you: A) Turn off the engine, which keeps the car from "surging" at the expense of your power steering and boosted brakes? B) Take the gear selector in your hand and move it to NEUTRAL, disconnecting power from the drive wheels and keeping your power steering and boosted brakes? C) Stomp on the brakes like a monkey with a sugar rush, accomplishing absolutely nothing while destroying your brake pads and making them utterly useless? This isn't new, I remember this exact question in driver's education many, many years ago. Cars then had just as many issues as they do now, and piloting 3500 pounds of metal, plastic and rubber is not something to take lightly. Consider the ones who decide the best course of action is to jump on the parking brake when they discover their car isn't doing what they want. DON'T EVER DO THIS. If your parking brake is adjusted properly, your back tires will lock and you will most likely spin. Even if they don't lock up, all that heat will probably cause them to instantly fade, giving you the braking power of a spoon whipping around in a bowel of pudding. I can't say I'm too surprised, though. Drivers who pick a vehicle because it makes them feel smug (as the first person was quoted in the beginning of the article) are not going to be very serious about how to properly drive what amounts to a weapon. Oh, and the correct answer is "B".

  • Charlie 04/27/2009 4:45:00 AM

    This article is bunk! I live in the Prius "capitol" of the Pacific Northwest (most Prius registrations per capita) and I have never heard of any untoward incident with a Prius. I know many (at least a dozen) people with Prius' from all years (including the firt year) who drive their cars EVERY DAY with nary an incident worth mentioning ever occuring. The bottom line here is that some drivers are idiots! Fortunately most are not.

  • Ari 04/26/2009 12:31:00 PM

    Everything old is new again. This is just the 21st century equivalent of the unintended acceleration fiasco that unjustly plagued Audi in the 1980s. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/in-defense-of-the-audi-5000/ It was sensationalism back then and it is sensationalism now. Replace gas pedal placement with a real time display of gas mileage and the source of the problem nonetheless remains: the object between the driver's seat and the steering wheel.

  • Rich 04/24/2009 10:03:00 PM

    interesting article, but definitely over-hyped. I've owned my 2nd generation Prius since it came out late 2003 and had only minor quirky problems with it. When the battery is fully charged after you come to a stop at the bottom of a hill, the engine will keep turning on and off continuously until you start moving again, which is strange but not dangerous in any way. Given there are almost a million of the cars on the road now and there are less than a dozen cases dug up for this story, people reading it will likely get the completely wrong impression about the car.

  • David 04/24/2009 1:30:00 AM

    Except for the unattended car crashing through the garage into the Altima, is there a reason these people couldn't simply turn off the key when their car starts to take off? Not that I'm a fan of hybrids (I think they're a fraud on the public), but sorry, I agree with the Toyota rep...as a society, we are too preoccupied with life to pay proper attention to our driving.

 

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