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A Shot in the Park

Smokey the Bear can't take your firearm.

Imagine hiking along remote stretches of the 93-mile Wonderland Trail winding around the base of Mt. Rainier. Ah, bliss. Far away from the crowds at the lodge, it's just nature, you, your tent, trail mix, and your trusty assault rifle.

Thanks to a law that goes into effect on Feb. 22, you will soon be able to pack heat in the national parks, formerly Second Amendment– (and accompanying noise and safety hazards–) free zones.

Jeremy Eaton

A group of former park rangers is trying to stir up enough public outrage to get Congress to overturn the new rule or convince states to enact their own restrictions to keep deadly weapons out of Mt. Rainier, the North Cascades, the Olympics, and the 55 other national parks throughout the United States.

"I just can't help but believe that most people in this country didn't expect that [openly carrying loaded guns] in national parks was going to be a reality in their lifetime," says Bill Wade, Chair of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees. Wade started his career as a ranger on Mt. Rainier and now lives in Arizona.

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) attached an amendment allowing guns in the nation's parks to a credit-card regulations bill. That legislation, restricting credit-card interest rates and fees, was signed by President Obama last May.

What do guns in national parks have to do with credit-card regulation? Absolutely nothing, but that's the way things work in Congress: I'll vote for your credit-card reform if you'll vote to allow my 9mm into Paradise. (Both Washington senators gave the bill a thumbs-down.)

In a statement made at the time he introduced the amendment, Coburn argued that 16 murders in national parks over the course of one year showed that people needed to be able to defend themselves in the parks.

Coburn's amendment says a state's gun laws now apply to the national parks in that state. So any gun you're allowed to carry in Washington is allowed in our three parks. As we learned in last week's SW, firearms are kosher in Starbucks too, so you can pick up a latte on your way to summit St. Helens.

Opponents argue that guns in parks will increase poaching problems, scare wildlife when they are fired, and "compromise the safe atmosphere that is valued by Americans and expected by international tourists traveling to the United States."

And besides, says Wade, "all of the research is clear that guns are the least effective protection against things like bears and other wild animals." (He's backed up by the hunting magazine Sports Afield, which says that pepper spray is far more effective for stopping a charging bear.)

Luckily for backcountry enthusiasts, the first rule of backpacking is to keep your pack as light as possible, and guns are quite heavy. Still, starting next Monday, you might want to be careful when setting up your tent late at night, lest the people in the neighboring site mistake you for a bear and start firing.

 
  • Disgruntled 03/01/2010 11:46:00 PM

    A shame that the days of unbiased news coverage are past. I'd hope there'd be at least a token effort to retain neutrality in this article regardless of flouting the author's own opinion. It reads like a press reported released by the Brady Campaign, honestly.

  • Acetofu 02/23/2010 10:05:00 PM

    I live in the shadow of mount rainier. I love spending time in the great outdoors with my family (wife and dog). I am 25 years old, very responsible, own a home (for over 5 years now), and in a stable career. I am a AVID gun collector and owner. And i DO exercise my second amendment rights whenever I'm not at work. I have avoided the national parks because of the gun restrictions. I will NOT put my wife in a situation where we cannot defend ourselves. Now that the ban has been lifted we will be exercising our new right within the park boundaries. For those who say pepper spray is a better bear deterrent let me ask you this: What is the range on pepper spray? Would you rather spray a can of pepper spray when the bear is within 25 ft? I don't think I'd want to wait until a bear is that close to me before i can defend myself. Also for these people that are trying to stomp out our civil rights, I'll say this: I'm not worried about bears. It's people that i worry about. There are some VERY strange people when you get out into the back country. If people are aware that we are able to defend ourselves there will be less incentive to take advantage of people. Washington is an open carry state i encourage everyone to take advantage of this. If guns are as common as cell phones people will become acclimated to them and it will become "no big deal". I will be carrying openly (even though i hold a valid Concealed Pistol License). I believe a gun is a deterrent if it's in plain view and less likely to use it if a criminal knows that i have it. Thank you all for your time in posting here. This is a huge step to getting our gun rights back and telling congress that we WILL NOT BACK DOWN!

  • Ez 02/22/2010 11:40:00 PM

    I carry a gun for defense. I do not carry it because I want to. I carry it because I have been a witness to the evils of man and I know what men are capable of doing. I watched a man die when I was 10 years old because someone got road rage at him. He was beat to death while everyone just stood and looked at each other and did nothing other than call the police. Several minutes after the brutal beating, the attacker was arrested. He fought the cops and was high on drugs. He served less than 3 years in prison. As long as there are drugs and evil men in this country I will carry a gun. Have you ever witnessed a violent crime? Have you ever been the helpless victim of a violent crime? Have you ever stared at a drug addict and wondered if he was going to let you live when he finished committing his crime? The bad guys are not the men legally carrying a weapon hidden from view. The bad guys are the ones that care so little about other people that they would rather kill someone to take $100 than work a day to earn it. Call your local sheriff and ask him for advice about keeping your family secure at home. He will tell you to get an alarm system for your home and buy a gun. Criminals know that they only have a few minutes so they commit their crimes quickly and get out of the area. I live in the city. It took 6 minutes for the cops to get to my neighbors house for a distress call. That is 3-4 times the amount of time it took for the brutal murder that I watched. Many Park users are good family people. Some are party animals with piles of drugs. They get high and look for a reason to be violent. Me...? I am that guy there with my family making smores, laughing, being nice to everyone around me and having a great camping trip with my pistol concealed inside of my waistband. Requirements for a concealed handgun license: No violent history; no domestic issues; no criminal history; no drug use; no history of mental health issues; must submit fingerprints to local police, state police and fbi; must pass background checks by state police and fbi; must interview with local sheriffs office. How many bad guys do you know of that can do all of that? How many bad guys do you know that would willingly submit their fingerprints to the fbi and state police? You are targeting the wrong group of people. You shouldn't be targeting the law abiding citizens. You should be targeting the men are illegally carrying guns and actually committing crimes (usually over and over and over).

  • Doug 02/20/2010 10:31:00 AM

    Do you really believe those of us law abiding citizens that carry every day without incident are now going to run into parks and start shooting. Your irrational fear of firearms in unhealthy, you are trotting out the same tired arguments that the anti-gun crowd throws up every time the right to bear arms is returned closer to the way the Bill of Rights intended. The result is always less crime, not shoot outs in the streets. I expect a retraction one year from now when it is evident your fear mongering is just that.

  • Jeff Tarver 02/20/2010 3:18:00 AM

    As a democrat, people believe I must think like this sadly biased author, but I do not. The 2nd ammendment is a right, just like free speach. This author loves her free speach rights in the ammendment, but clearly shudders at the thought of us law abiding legal gun owners have an ammendment we enjoy. How truly sad. Laura Onstot, you seem to do nothing but write inane drivel. Seattle Weekly isdoing their subscribers a disservice by allowing you to write for them and represent their media outlet.

  • Reasonable Man 02/19/2010 10:00:00 PM

    As an owner of a valid concealed carry permit, who has passed state and federal background checks,why should I have to give up my right to defend myself with my firearm simply because I crossed a line on a map? Restricting the rights of legal gun owners tips the balance of power in the criminals favor. It should be obvious to everyone that you cannot legislate a criminal into good behavior. My right to defend myself is not a political issue, it is a personal freedom that transcends all the rhetoric and should not be infringed by any boundaries.

  • Wired 02/19/2010 9:18:00 PM

    You obviously have not idea what you're talking about. First off, only the uninformed refer to it as "packing heat". "Thanks to a law that goes into effect on Feb. 22, you will soon be able to pack heat in the national parks, formerly Second Amendment– (and accompanying noise and safety hazards–) free zones." Second Amendment free zones? They're called gun free zones, and where most of the shootings have taken place lately is within one of these zones. How are those really working out if people are being shot in a gun free zone? The criminals know the law abiding citizens are not carrying. Easy prey. "In a statement made at the time he introduced the amendment, Coburn argued that 16 murders in national parks over the course of one year showed that people needed to be able to defend themselves in the parks." And did Coburn say how these people were murdered. Usually when an animal kills someone it's considered an attack, not murder. So I can only believe these 16 people were murdered by other two legged creatures. "As we learned in last week's SW, firearms are kosher in Starbucks too, so you can pick up a latte on your way to summit St. Helens." Do you have any idea how long people have been carrying inside of Starbucks, but now it's a problem. How many shootings have occurred inside of a Starbucks by a person with a Concealed Weapons Permit? I'm willing to bet the answer is less than 10, and that's giving me some buffer room. "Opponents argue that guns in parks will increase poaching problems, scare wildlife when they are fired, and "compromise the safe atmosphere that is valued by Americans and expected by international tourists traveling to the United States."" This is about Concealed Carry. While possible, not many people conceal a rifle or shotgun well. As for scaring the wildlife when fired. If I end up scaring an elk or deer because someone is trying to take my life or cause serious bodily harm, so be it. You make it sound like people are going to be target practicing and even hunting in the National Parks, which is simply not true. As for "compromise the safe atmosphere that is valued by Americans and expected by international tourists traveling to the United States," I guess it was really safe for the 16 people that were murdered in one year, right? "And besides, says Wade, "all of the research is clear that guns are the least effective protection against things like bears and other wild animals." (He's backed up by the hunting magazine Sports Afield, which says that pepper spray is far more effective for stopping a charging bear.)" As stated before, while part of this is for animal protection, it's also for protection against 2 legged creatures. People like to commit crimes in NPs. Why? Because there's less people (witnesses) and there's no cameras (evidence). "Luckily for backcountry enthusiasts, the first rule of backpacking is to keep your pack as light as possible, and guns are quite heavy." You should check out some of Smith and Wesson's Airweight or Ultralight series. They can make a decent pistol pretty light now. Might come in hand for your next adventure. "Still, starting next Monday, you might want to be careful when setting up your tent late at night, lest the people in the neighboring site mistake you for a bear and start firing." If I'm going backpacking and setting up camp, I'm not doing it right next to someone else. That's the reason I'm out there in the first place. In conclusion, get your facts straight before you try to influence people with scare tactics and false representations that are not true.

  • John 02/19/2010 8:25:00 PM

    Packing heat? What is this Chicago in the 20's? Are you saying that law abiding citizens, who in many cases, have had background checks and recieved permission to exercise their second ammendment right to carry arms are the same as gangsters? What is with the noise and safety hazards comment? You act as if there will be target pratice and firefights at every turn. The people who carry are not criminals, they are responsible adults able to use good common sense. Firing a firearm in a public park will be as a last resort, one that would only be exersised if they are threatened and are in immediate physical danger. The passage of the bill is something that shouldn't even be an issue. It's the right of every American to be able to carry arms and to be able to defend themselves from all who would seek to do them harm. This fact should make this kind of a bill unneccessary to begin with. It's a right the founding fathers thought enough of to put into our constitution. Prior to this bill, people carried knives, hatchets and even axes into parks all across America. How many reports of people going on a rampage stabbing and slashing their way through innocent victims have you reported on in your lifetime? You need to crawl out from under your rock, get out into the real world and meet some of these people you think you know. What you will find is good, upstanding considerate people that have taken the responsibility upon themselves to be the first line of defense for their family and themselves. They are not the ones you read or hear about on the evening news that are out robbing and shooting innocent people. No, they are the ones who are vigilant enough to protect themselves and those who come within their sphere of influence from the very type of people you are trying to portray them as. You should consider yourself lucky to live in a country that affords people the basic human right of self preservation!

  • x 02/19/2010 4:54:00 PM

    "Imagine hiking along remote stretches of the 93-mile Wonderland Trail winding around the base of Mt. Rainier. Ah, bliss. Far away from the crowds at the lodge, it's just nature, you, your tent, trail mix, and your trusty assault rifle." Sounds good!

  • Harris 02/19/2010 1:12:00 PM

    I've read your article twice now trying to make sense of it, and still come up with nothing but biased, self serving drivel. What people like you fail to realize is that those of us who chose to carry a firearm are not eager to use it! We don't carry because we want to shoot something, we carry because we want the ability (and value the right) to defend ourselves if need be. Good reporting requires digging a bit deeper and not just relaying the facts presented, but looking a bit farther into their implications. The fact that law abiding, permit holding citizens will now be allowed to carry a concealed firearm into a national park does not mean we'll be out there shooting clays, hunting, hootin' and hollerin' and leaving our Budweiser beer cans all over the ground. It simply is a long awaited extension of our 2nd amendment right to the ability to protect ourselves if need be. Please do yourself, your readers, and the reporting community at large a favor and leave your personal bias out of your stories. It simply makes you look like a fool.

  • Rich 02/19/2010 11:44:00 AM

    I have a CHL and carry everyday around all types of people (even liberals), and they never notice. Why do you think I would do any different in a park where there's still lots of people around? Your story is inaccurate in that there's very stiff penalties for intentially displaying a carry weapon. We're not just going to walk around like old west gunslingers. Perhaps you could've done some research prior to writing your article. You would've very easily found those laws. Before you write your next anti-gun tirade I suggest you visit a website such as www.thearmedcitizen.com and read some of the accounts on there. Or if you really wanted I could get a female friend of mine to tell you about how I used my CHL to stop a stalker from raping her. You might just decide to do a positive story on guns and the people that legally carry them. I implore you to not wait until AFTER your a victim of a violent crime to realize the importance of protection.

  • Kim Witzki 02/19/2010 9:15:00 AM

    I would like add my two cents worth about Laura's artical. I think Laura has a dim view of anyone who might own a gun. I know a lot of gun owners and I do not think any of them are run amuck trigger happy stooges. In fact most of the people I know have concealed carry permits. Part of the concealed carry class is to inform the person of the extream responsability they have chosen to take on when getting this permit. This class really makes you think about what legal issues one might be getting into if you should actually have to pull your weapon to defend your life or some other persons life. You must be very sure of yourself when you draw your weapon. I beleave Laura should think about the campers a mile down from her camp that are getting high or loaded on what ever drug they have developed a hunger for and are needing some doe for their next fix. And don't tell me that does not go on in our state parks. Those are the people she should worry about. And leave us law abiding gun owners who might be able to come to their aid alone.

  • matt 02/19/2010 8:50:00 AM

    This article is not worth the paper it would take 2 be written on. This used to be legal and we had no problems. Who would go into the woods without a gun? How many people have been killed my criminals in the woods. I know of 3 cases in Florida. Thank God they got this law right! "Packing Heat" that is a great term, it shows the Authors lack of knowledge in firearms.

  • Grant Yount 02/19/2010 8:15:00 AM

    This is one of the most uninformed, poorly written articles Ive read recently. Its unfortunate that you believe scaring the public is better than telling the truth, and that your clearly biased opinion must make its way into the news.

  • Sheepdog1022 02/19/2010 8:09:00 AM

    This article is horribly biased and the authors whole case is based on the assumptions of people who think they know what they are talking about. As gunslinger stated above this bill allows Concealed Carry Permit holders to carry concealed in National parks and I don't know about anyone else but I would find it pretty much impossible to conceal an "Assault Rifle" as the media so loves to call them. This is pretty much the same people who said/say that allowing ccw would turn us back to old western society with shootouts on every corner and crime skyrocketing..well it did not happen and in fact crime rates went down in most if not all states that issue ccw permits to qualifying individuals. As far as pepper spray stopping a charging bear better than a gun lol thats just going to tick it off even more and you'll just go down with a bitter aftertaste hot sauce if you will. At any rate just open up your eyes people take a look around there are millions of law abiding citizens with ccws walking amongst you every day if we were as the left wing anti gun nuts described us there really would be chaos on a much much larger scale than anything that goes on today. "An armed society is a polite society"

  • Steveperry 02/19/2010 7:44:00 AM

    So, I should rely on the Ranger Smith of Jellystone Park to protect me? Maybe Ranger Rick can come to my aid should trouble arise. I glad to hear that one less area is off limits to law abiding, well trained Americans who wish to take responsibility for their own safety. Also, there should be no "2nd Amendment Free Zones". Would you like to be told when and where you are allowed to exercise your constitutional rights? To be told the 4th amendment only protects you from illegal search and seizure...some of the time, or that you aren't allowed to write any ignorant articles in the months of June and July?

  • Dave 02/19/2010 7:26:00 AM

    This is one of the worst written, under informed articles I have ever seen. "You will soon be able to pack heat in the national parks" I do not know one LEGAL gun owner who would refer to the act of carrying as "packing heat". This article also implies that when I do carry my LEGAL gun into a national park, I can just walk around shooting everything that moves, you better not be wearing fur, cus us fellas packing heat is gonna think you is dinner

  • Laura 02/19/2010 5:41:00 AM

    First thanks everyone for taking the time to comment. I just wanted to clarify exactly what Coburn's amendment said (you can read the text here: http://bit.ly/9NUeRk). The amendment says a person can carry a gun in a national park if: 1: the individual is not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing the firearm; and 2: the possession of the firearm is in compliance with the law of the State in which the unit of the National Park System or the National Wildlife Refuge System is located. Some states don’t allow you to openly carry an assault rifle around (opencarry.org has a helpful map), but Coburn’s amendment doesn't put any prohibitions on it. Wade and other National Park rangers, past and present, seem to be interpreting the legislation to mean you can indeed openly carry guns of various types in the National Parks.

  • Ed 02/19/2010 3:38:00 AM

    Question, do you feel "safe" around a cop? Police officers, on and off duty, are carrying firearms all the time, everywhere. does the presence of a firearm terrify you so much that you're terrified when you see on on the hip of a policeman? No? Then what's the big deal? I'm far better trained in the handeling and use of firearms than 90% of law enforcement officers i this state. I know I can outshoot them in any course of fire because I do so on a regular basis in competition. Know what you're talking about before you spout off. It's really annoying to educated, knowledgable people to see idiots with little or no knowledge of law and virturally zero knowledge about firearms writing crap like this. Is it really so terrible to have state laws apply everywhere in the state? You sound so stupid!!!!!

  • Gunslinger 02/19/2010 3:33:00 AM

    Get the facts straight. Nothing says you can openly carry an AR-15 into national parks. Coburn's amendment allows those with valid concealed carry permits to carry their leagally concealed handgun while in national parks. No big deal. There are millions of us walking around everywhere, everyday carrying our handguns concealed. It's really no big deal.

 

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