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What Are the Rules for Befriending an Ex?

Dear Dategirl,

I'm a senior in college, and until recently was in a great relationship with an amazing woman. Since it ended, we have been spending time together on a weekly basis, and I have to confess: I am every bit as smitten with her as I was when we were dating. She still seems to enjoy my company, but I don't know if she feels the same way about me as I do about her.

I know you are probably going to say that she may never feel for me like I want her to and I should just do what I do and see how it shakes out, but there must be something I can do!

Is there any advice you can offer me in understanding the female mental perspective of being friends with an ex? Do women ever get back with their exes?

—Stuck on Her

I'm wondering why you two broke up. It certainly doesn't seem to have been too dramatic or traumatic, or you wouldn't still be hanging out regularly. Here are some possible scenarios, with my take on how likely it is that you kids will be able to work past it:

Timing. If one of you was ready for a big-time relationship while the other wanted to play the field, you could possibly find yourself on the same relationship page a little further down the line. These are the easiest breakups to declare backsies on, because nobody's at fault.

Two-Timing. I've never been the forgiving type, but I hear rumors of couples who not only survived a partner's infidelity, but thrived. Repairing a partnership after an extracurricular dalliance isn't easy, but it can be done. Just prepare yourself (if you're the cheater) to provide total transparency, complete honesty, and a lot of ass-kissing.

Violence. Regardless of who's done the smacking, if your relationship has gotten to the point where punches are being thrown, you should definitely move on. If you're the perpetrator, do the world (and yourself) a favor and enlist a mental-health professional— stat.

Where Did Our Love Go? Sometimes, despite your best efforts, love just goes bye-bye. Unfortunately, once someone's fallen out of love with you, there's nothing you can do to resuscitate it. I still remember exactly where I was and what I was doing (him) when I realized I no longer loved a long-ago ex. What was once a passion had turned into a dreary habit.

Growing Up or Growing Apart? You're still playing beer pong with your brahs while she's studying for the GMAT, working two jobs, and volunteering at a homeless shelter. Wait to call her until you're 30 or gainfully employed and not sleeping on a futon, whichever comes first.

Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire. I once had a boyfriend who was utterly incapable of telling the truth—even when the truth was no biggie, like telling me he'd taken the bus when he'd actually taken the train. Most liars aren't as diligent in their fibbing as he was, but once you destroy someone's trust, you need to do a lot of work to regain it. Oh, and quit lying.

No Future! A friend of mine once dated a Japanese chick who'd promised her parents she'd marry only within the tribe. So why was she dating a black dude? Who knows? But it wasn't as though he could convert to Japanese, so their love was doomed.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that many relationships can be repaired with a little work. It just depends on your reasons for splitting up in the first place. My advice: Talk to her.

 
  • paul 11/13/2009 11:03:00 PM

    Women can turn their love off and on like a faucet. Well, off like a faucet, at least. This is why guys should never, ever sign legal paperwork enslaving themselves to someone who can go from promising them the world to throwing them out with yesterday's news. Keep your finances separate and you'll be fine.

  • rainydaz 11/06/2009 1:50:00 AM

    Speaking from the perspective of a mid-40's widowed serial monogamist, I think the previous posters are both male. That being said, I can relate to the above advice scenarios. I have tried to make it a rule to befriend exes with the following exceptions: Liars - sorry, not telling the truth... whether it is to "save someone's feelings", or to "manipulate another for the benefit of your own ends" is a REAL dealbreaker... it doesn't work for children, and even less for adults. Or to quote a friend, "Friends don't "*Gaslight" friends". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_%281944_film%29 Violence - if you have been there, it's the LAST place you want to revisit. Sure forgiveness is a real possibility - as a friend... let them use their new resolutions on their new relationship. You get two new friends & they get to remain in your life. Two-timing - it takes a certain element of deception to pursue this in the context of a relationship no matter how serious or non-serious, see above. Timing - To the post-widowed people I may or may not have hurt with my crazyness after my spouse died... I have apologized in the past, but consider this a literary bonus for trying to stay my friend. I had no business pursuing anything that resembled a relationship or sex at that time, with people who had no idea how truly broken hearted I was at the end of my VERY brief marriage. I still miss my spouse, but in the last four years of celibacy (not for everybody, when you your spouse dies, I'll be happy to hear how you coped.) that has been channeled into what really matters to me, our child, a couple of college degrees and some emotionally expanding creative projects. I realize you are an overdue phone call away, but there is really no rewind of us in the future, and it's not fair to confuse that in the friendzone. Yeah, I should have called more, but phone numbers work for you too. Death of a spouse is not the same as divorce. There is no negotiation for children or property, but there is still in-laws who miss their kid as much as you do. They don't recognize the person you have become, but learn to accept when there is so few coping options, sometimes acceptance is what remains. Talking to the ex in the interest of being friends only works if both are willing to be completely honest with each other... ie: what you would expect from your friends.

  • kc 11/05/2009 3:11:00 AM

    You left out one of the most obvious ones, from my point of view: he sucked in bed, she's had subsequent experience that showed her just how much she had been missing, and she doesn't know how to let him know that and spare his feelings at the same time, because she truly does value his friendship. I stayed friends with an ex for several years because I enjoyed his company and conversation out of bed, and because we had friends in common - in fact, we each had relationships with other people throughout this period, and our friendship (at least on my side) did not impact negatively on those involvements. However, I did make the mistake of sleeping with the guy once when we were both single and lonely, and it really came home to me what a lousy lay the guy was - something I had been too young and inexperienced to know when we were together. He kept raving about how much I had learned over the years when we were apart, and I had to literally bite my tongue a few times not to remind him of how much he had not. Our friendship ended shortly thereafter, when I made it clear (without having the guts to spell out why) that there was no potential of there ever being sex between us again. I'd hate to think that he'd stayed "friends" with me all those years just in hopes of getting back together (he certainly never gave me that indication), but perhaps that was the case.

  • passingby 11/04/2009 9:03:00 PM

    Another explanation: she is keeping him around as her back-up dick-in-a-glass. If she gets lonely, or fails to score the higher-status alpha male sort she now has her eye on, she will wander back to his mooning, smitten beta ass. My advice to him is stop seeing her. At all. Go screw other women and have no contact with her for a year. Then see where things are at.

 

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