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Bleach: Krist Novoselic Interviews Chad Channing

The drummer on most Bleach tracks talks about Nirvana's "Doom Pop" sound, naming "About a Girl," and Endino's snack attacks.

Bleach was recorded during two different sessions. The first was a demo done in early 1988 with drummerDale Crover, now best known as a member of the Melvins. Later, Krist and Kurt hiredChad Channing and went back into the studio in late ’88 and early 1989. In the end, they included a couple of tracks from the Crover demo on the finished record.

Nirvana’s “Doom Pop” took its toll on the band’s gear.
Charles Peterson/Raji's, Los Angeles 1990
Nirvana’s “Doom Pop” took its toll on the band’s gear.

 

Channing I remember we were driving to Aberdeen to rehearse. We'd meet in Olympia and go down. There was nowhere else to rehearse, and wasn't it your mom's house?

Novoselic An apartment above a beauty salon. We waited for the businesses to close and we'd make a racket, but downtown was empty so we could be loud. Somebody brought a video camera over, and that's what you see in the [With the] Lights Out box set.

CC Working on "About a Girl," the song didn't have a title by that time, so I asked Kurt, "What is that song about?" He said "About a girl." I said "Why don't you just call it that?" So he made this quirky smile and said "OK!"

CC When we set up in the studio in Seattle, the idea was to detune everything. The drum heads were really loose, and it was kind of hard to play because you didn't get that snap-back. Jack Endino taped a coin to the kick-drum head so it would have a brighter tone.

KN Oh yeah, and we tuned the guitars down to D for that heavy sound.

CC But wasn't "Blew" tuned down a step on top of that?

KN YES! It's, like, in C or something. We recorded a bunch of tunes in that setup—like on the first day of recording. We came back the next day and decided the idea wasn't so hot, and we recorded over most of it with things tuned back up a little. In fact, "Blew," with that growly bass, is the only survivor of that experiment.

CC We had to save money. If it was digital, it would have been preserved. We were recording on 8-track, half-inch tape. Even having "Blew" survive is amazing. Why didn't all the loose strings just flop around?

KN To save money, we didn't screw around. I thought we had a good work ethic.

CC Oh, no, maybe a break to run to the store, or maybe a snack request from Jack.

KN Yes, Jack was into snacks. It seemed like it would take him 20 minutes to eat a single potato chip. He'd look at it, talk to you, look at it some more, examine it, and after an hour he'd eat it!...I think one of the best songs you and I worked together on was "Big Cheese." Kurt came up with that two-note riff for the verses. You and I took off for that instrumental bridge. I went up high on the neck of the bass, and you did that great double kick!

CC That's one of my favorite songs. You know why it really worked for me? My friends and I would play our 45s on 33 rpm. It would sound deeper and heavier at that speed.

KN Doom Pop!

CC I had a single of "Back in Black" by AC/DC, and it rocked the 33-rpm test. Most songs don't...I like "Swap Meet" a lot. That's one of those songs where we needed to get the last bits tidy up to recording.

KN The song has good drums on the riff after the chorus—"Close to his heart!" And you take off!

CC It's a crazed marching drummer who decided to run away from the parade.

KN My favorite song on the record is "Blew," probably, because it has a groove, and again, it's the sole survivor of the Doom Pop experiment.

CC Gotta have a special bit of love for that tune. It's a survivor! On "Scoff," I would do my double kick pedal with that rhythm between the floor tom. Then the guitars come in with the same rhythm.

KN "Give me back my alcohol!" Anything in closing? This is a special interview for me personally. And I think that many fans will want to read this, because after all these years it's never been done before.

CC All in all, despite the difficulties laying down the drums because of the way they were set up, we'd listen back and I remember the smiles. It was the first time I was in the studio to do a record. That was cool. It was amazing to hold an LP vinyl in your hands. I've had records my whole life, and now here was one that I was on!

 
  • 05/25/2011 6:05:00 AM

    And what an album to make your debut on!

  • Lazaros 12/27/2010 2:11:00 AM

    What intrigues me is why Chad was fired/left from the band? Cause i really loved Bleach. If i was a reporter and interviewing these guys i wouldn't have the balls to ask though out of mere respect, these people are family to me .

  • mark 07/22/2010 11:37:00 AM

    Krist Novoselic is an underrated bassist as far as I'm concerned......He connected perfectly with Kurt Cobain's guitar and the melody of his singing at the same time with wild energy....Most music people I know will mention Jack Bruce or John Entwistle, or Bill Wyman as the greats, but you know what, Krist was better...He just cared about making the whole band sound good more than caring about coming across as an "innovative" or "special bassist" which he was.....God I wish they made more records being the selfish little fan that I am. This band just didn't know how to play badly. They're only problem was that they were too good.... Much respect to Krist Novoselic...

  • tom 11/09/2009 8:30:00 AM

    Great interview, Krist! I remember being on the school buy sin 1992 when a kid cam eup to me with a stack of sub pop era Nirvana vinyl because he had heard I was a huge fan. He offered it all for 30 bucks, but I didn't have a record player (or $30) so I passed. Oh regret... These two conversations were awesome to read! Thanks for taking the time to look back.

  • Grits 11/03/2009 6:07:00 PM

    Good stuff!

  • David 11/03/2009 12:58:00 AM

    Several hours have passed since I posted the above comment, yet no one has flamed me for typing "About a Girl" instead of "Love Buzz". I thank you all for your kindness/ignorance.

  • David 11/02/2009 7:43:00 PM

    No comments on this yet?! Great interview, lads - wish I had a copy of the About a Girl 45 to give it the Doom Pop 33rpm treatment!! Hope you two play together again sometime, you came up with some great heavy grooves on Bleach - looking forward to cranking the remastered vinyl all the way up. Respect!

 

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