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How Rough Is Too Rough Between the Sheets?

Dear Dategirl,

Kirsten Ulve

My girlfriend and I are starting to realize that she is a masochist, or at least interested in very rough sex. We are both pretty open-minded people, so experimentation in bed is not uncommon. However, in recent days, we have talked about rougher sex. She seems very into the idea. I won't lie, I can't help but feel turned on by her wanting to be fucked harder. But I'm no sadist and feel totally lost when it comes to giving pain. She clearly wants to be hit, but what does that mean? (Spankings are already in my tool bag, FYI.) What are my limits? I tried asking her, but I get the feeling that she doesn't know, and the act of talking it out and planning it takes away from the whole point.

—Over My Head

One thing I'm certain of is that good communication is generally the key to great sex, but it's never as important as with BDSM. I mean, someone could get hurt! Because I'm a bit of a wuss when it comes to rough stuff, I called in an expert to help you kids figure things out.

Lolita Wolf is an emeritus board member of the Eulenspiegel Society, and has been an active member of the BDSM scene since you were in short pants. Not only that, she's written two books—one on cock-and-ball play, in case your girlfriend gets the urge to turn the tables. You can check out her blog at www.leatheryenta.com.

Of your girlfriend, Wolf says, "Just liking rough sex by itself does not make her a masochist. Not everyone gets off with gentle loving. Some of us need a bit more stimulation."

Hear that? Don't be so quick to classify. But whether that stimulation comes from nipple clamps or an inner-thigh flogging, what's clear is that by not talking about what you expect from each other, you're asking for a world of pain. (Not the kind that gets you off.) Wolf agreed, saying there has to be an agreement between you two: "If they are doing resistance play, then a formal safeword is a good idea. If she likes to resist and say 'Stop! Stop!' but doesn't really mean it—and that can be very exciting—then they need a word like 'red' or 'aardvark'...something that makes it clear that the action has to stop."

Wolf understands your discomfort with inflicting pain. "All their lives guys have been taught to not hit girls. But some women want to be manhandled!" She suggests that you "remember that there is a difference between hurt and harm." When you give your girlfriend what she's asking for—even if it looks uncomfortable to you—you're making her happy. Just be sure you don't cross the line and harm her while you're hurting her. Capisce?

Maybe your ladyfriend is having trouble articulating what she wants, but if you sit down and discuss boundaries, she'll start to figure it out. This is the safest thing for both of you—if she's looking for a light flick of a switch and you deliver a wallop, that's just going to get ugly. It's a good idea to have this conversation fully clothed and in a nonsexual state of mind. That way you can figure out what she wants and what you're capable of delivering, and still have a sense of spontaneity when you finally get around to the sex.

Wolf advises you to start slowly. Because spankings are already part of your play, she suggests you "up the ante by using a paddle, [but] make sure you know where is safe to hit." Wolf continues, "Increase the swats incrementally. Watch your partner, read the body language, and listen to how they breathe and what they say."

Hopefully it won't be "aardvark."

dategirl@seattleweekly.com

 
  • Castoor 07/08/2009 12:26:00 PM

    I am with someone infrequently who is into what I consider very rough sex. she likes me to force myself on her. Its a pain sometimes as she is really strong and can defend herself very well. So by the time I have fought my way between her legs Im hot, tired, and no longer aroused because of the work out I just went through. Now I love making her happy. Pleasing her pleases me. Im very oral and love to go down on her every chance I get. Shes a bit of a switch as she can roll dom a bit if I let her which I do occasionally. No one turns me on like this girl. I can be aggressive with her easily because I know she enjoys it. She wont even discuss a "safe" word with me even though I really wish she would. I guess the long term worries me a bit. Will she always only want sex this way?

  • WTH Jared??? 05/28/2009 5:57:00 PM

    "Slide a knife inside her"??? Are you serious??? You think that's less dangerous than punching her? I really hope that was just a typo.....

  • Jack 05/27/2009 6:00:00 AM

    Damn. The safeword for both my subs is "aardvark" (Master Aardvark is my scene name, when I use one). Ain't nothing wrong with "Aardvark." :)

  • Max 05/26/2009 2:20:00 AM

    Hey Dategirl - Good job getting some info from Lolita - she's great and really knows her way around this stuff. There's some great resources in Seattle too, if that's where "Over My Head" lives. The Center for Sex Positive Culture offers BDSM parties, discussion groups and education - they even have a library full of sex-positive books and periodicals. Workshops include my own bondage workshop series, and topics like negotiation, consent and various BDSM play techniques. Check them out at www.SexPositiveCulture.org In addition to my public bondage and topping workshops I offer private instruction and BDSM coaching. Contact me through my web site - www.BondageLessons.com - Max www.BondageLessons.com

  • Mario 05/25/2009 11:44:00 PM

    Couple things: 1. Have fun while you can but keep an eye out. If this becomes a true fetish for your partner then by definition this will be the only way your partner will find sex enjoyable and it has to escalate to maintain its danger levels. If she starts making suggestions you are not comfortable with then do not just go along. 2. Do not breed with this person. Not a morality issue but if this does become an ongoing event then you run the risk of doing severe damage to your children. When he/she walks in and your partner is in a leather swing while you slap her with a bull whip you'll be paying for there shrink for the next 15 years. 3. If you have no intention of keeping this girl around then dive in knee deep. People have to pay for stuff like that ;)

  • jared 05/25/2009 10:43:00 PM

    as someone has has practiced a bit of s & m, punching isnt cool man, its more about the scratch, try clamping her nips, or slowly sliding a knife inside her, cmon get down wit it

  • M 05/25/2009 8:45:00 PM

    There is a good Adult video called "Penny Flames Expert Guide To Rough Sex." It goes over good places to hit your partner without doin damage and how much force you should use. Check it out, I found it very informative.

  • Bowenism 05/25/2009 8:28:00 PM

    Don't punch her closed fist in the back of the head no matter how much she begs for it. IF you need to, just ask her to wear a ponytail or pig tails and slowly, pull them like reigns. Talk to her in that weird freakish voice and ask her "You want more?" or "You like that". Whatever you do, don't laugh while doing it just because you think it's the most retarded thing you have ever heard of. Just remember, it's about her needs and wants to make her satisfied.

  • Mr. Smith 05/25/2009 7:55:00 PM

    Beat that ho. She's a freak. lol

  • Tiesloth Wallsoul 05/25/2009 5:23:00 PM

    Totally sidestepped this particular issue, which is so many women refuse - R E F U S E - to talk about what they want, because, in their own words, that defeats the purpose. It would be nice if someone would address the issue stated. It's like saying if you don't understand what I want, without having to say it, then you are not the right person for them. So move on, I guess, cause in my experience, this type will NEVER disclose thier desires.

  • Jezebel 05/23/2009 2:24:00 AM

    May I recommend a good book? "Screw The Roses, Send Me The Thorns" by Miller & Devon is a great book for exploring your less vanilla side. The authors explain many of the in's and out's of sensation play and lead you into a nice exploration of your darker side of sex. Buy a copy for yourself and one for your partner. I wish you a happy and safe exploration of your sexuality.

 

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