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Stay Together, Carry a Gun, Protect the Hill

Frustrated by what they view as police indifference, a group of Beacon Hill residents takes to the streets packing heat.

Cheney’s surprised his group of urban gun-toters hasn’t been met with more protest.
Kevin P. Casey
Cheney’s surprised his group of urban gun-toters hasn’t been met with more protest.

In some ways, the group of Beacon Hill residents who gathered August 27 to walk the streets at dusk was just like any other community meet-up: People made small talk about the weather and compared how long they'd lived in the neighborhood. But in another way, it wasn't so typical, at least for Seattle: Some of those assembled were packing heat, part of an armed patrol recently born of the neighborhood's listserv (beaconhill.seattle.wa.us).

Their 90-minute walk started on Beacon Avenue South and meandered north along the residential streets of the neighborhood's western slope. The idea was to walk to 15th Avenue South and South Massachusetts Street, an area discussed at length online as a hotbed of drugs and prostitution. Along the way, talk turned from the importance of "situational awareness" to the rising cost of ammunition and preferred places for target practice.

"This is the area that makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up," said Ezra Klug, a native of Chicago, as the group neared its destination. But all was quiet—the most action they saw was a couple of suspicious characters sitting on a stoop.

Klug recently became a concealed-weapons permit holder after confronting some teenagers who were fighting near his house on 17th Avenue South earlier this year. Klug says the teenagers threatened him with a gun after he asked them to go home.

Tonight, Klug is armed only with a camera and a cell phone, because he doesn't feel he's had the proper training to carry his new gun. "Don't look to me for backup," Klug says to the group's leader, Mike Cheney.

"We're not looking for trouble; we just want to see what's happening," says Cheney, a longtime Beacon Hill resident and former Fort Lewis military police officer. Tall, slight, and intense, with a shaved head and small, circular glasses, Cheney, whose wife Ann also carried a gun on the walk, says carrying a concealed weapon "is like buying insurance or wearing a seatbelt. It's something you do to be prepared."

The patrols are an offshoot of Cheney's new group, Citizens for the Second Amendment, which had its first meeting last month. "It doesn't mean you're a gun fanatic or a freak just because you have a concealed-weapons permit," he explains one morning at Galaxie, a popular Beacon Hill coffee shop.

Cheney, who always carries a piece, today has his Kimber Gold Combat II 1911 .45-caliber harnessed in a shoulder strap under his black jacket. He keeps his concealed-weapons permit in a window in his tri-fold wallet, along with his "Blackwater Alumni" membership card. Though he never worked for the infamous Defense Department contractor, membership allows him perks like access to Blackwater's online store and firearms training. (According to the company Web site, Blackwater is currently conducting a membership push for its alumni association, "one of the most important and far-reaching tools used to keep the Blackwater family connected and informed." Cheney says he wanted to be part of the group because he's known people who have worked for Blackwater. "They are not just a bunch of hired killers," he says. "They are of the highest caliber of individuals.")

Cheney says he shoots regularly at local firing ranges—"I go through 500 rounds every time I go," he says—because criminals practice too. He hopes his Second Amendment group, the only one of its kind in Seattle, will help educate people about gun ownership. But the emergence of the armed patrols has sparked a spirited discussion on Beacon Hill about whether people should have to disclose whether or not they're packing heat during the evening walks. It's also challenged people's assumptions about who among them carries a gun.

"The gun in [your neighbor's] handbag has always been there when they walked to the store, to yoga class, at Java Love, Galaxie, the library, or church, or maybe even when they chaperoned the...kids on their way to school," wrote George Robertson on the neighborhood listserv. "You just didn't know it."

But Roberta Carlson isn't buying it. "I don't think people going to my [yoga] class have guns," she tells Seattle Weekly. "I'm not in favor of a neighborhood vigilante group. The thought of people walking around with guns, no matter what their intentions are, is a little scary."

For its part, the Seattle Police Department is mum on the subject. "We are here to uphold the law," says Officer Jeff Kappel, a department spokesperson. "As long as people are exercising their rights lawfully, we have no issue or opinion."

Shelly Bates, a Beacon Hill resident and mother of three, feels that if she went on one of the patrols, she's not sure she'd ask who's carrying a gun—in large part because she doesn't want to know.

"I'm not sure I'd be ready to deal with [people carrying guns on the walk]," she says, adding that while she realizes she probably should ask the parents of her kids' playdates if they have guns at home, she doesn't do that either. "They don't appear like gun owners to me, but you ask a question like that and people you never thought might be. It could change your whole perspective of what you think of them. I'm not sure I could deal with that information."

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  • Kevin 10/17/2008 4:46:00 AM

    I continue to be disheartened by those, like some of the people interviewed in this article, who state or imply that gun ownership would somehow invalidate any friendship or other relationship they might have with someone. Why do they feel it's important to know if someone owns a firearm? There are plenty of things just as likely to harm your kids that they might find on a playdate in someone else's house; do you also feel the need to ask if they have bleach, paint stripper, drugs, knives, fireworks, etc? Would that person next to you in Yoga class somehow be less palatable to do Yoga with just because they have a firearm in their locker? Why? I'm not one to trust people readily, so I can understand some reluctance to assume responsible ownership of anything by anyone, but firearms are not unique in that way. I know my own wife is uncomfortable with my firearms, so they stay unloaded and under multiple locks when not being taken to the range... but then, she also doesn't feel safe walking around on the streets (we don't have sidewalks) in South Seattle either. For my part, I trust myself with deadly force more than I trust my neighborhood not to ever require it- but in the interest of preserving family harmony, I defer to my wife on that count. I certainly support the choice of others to carry in a safe and responsible manner, though.

  • Monty 10/15/2008 12:05:00 PM

    I really don't see how adding more guns to the neighborhood is going to help. I don't think they are the solution to a peaceful community. But while you're strapping guns on every resident in beacon hill mike, why don't you start sending the kids to school with a 9mm in their lunchbox? That way if someone tries to hurt little Timmy he can kill them just like his parents would.

  • Greg 09/24/2008 2:16:00 PM

    mikey all the places you mentioned are GUN FREE ZONES like what Mayor Nickels wants to do in violation of state law. His effort to aid rapist muggers robbers and murders by feeding them unarmed defenseless prey is insane. All are city parks will have a huge sign around them To All Criminals FEEDING GROUNDS DEFENSELESS PREY HERE !! There is a reason none of these massacres occur on military bases, police academies, or gun ranges. Criminals are looking for prey not opponents The ONLY time these massacres have ever been stopped is by an armed citizens. The police have never ever stopped a single one from occurring. They arrive in time to collect the dead bodies. Only armed citizens at the scenes are capable of stopping violent crimes as they occur. As in the following cases. Please Google the names for the full story. Google will also help you verify each of the stats presented below. Kenneth K. Hammond carrying a concealed weapon stopped a massacre at the Trolley Square Mall in Utah Jeanne Assam carrying a concealed weapon saved a 1,000 lives at New Life Church in Colorado Springs, by stopping a killer who had entered New Life Church with over a thousand rounds of ammunition and multiple guns intent on killing everyone in the church Tracy Bridges & Mikael Gross stopped a mass murder at Appalachian School of Law, after lives were lost while they retrieved their guns from their cars, where they were required by policy to keep them. ( If college students legally licensed to carry concealed weapons been able to carry gun on school property no innocents would have died) Principal Joel Myrick stopped a slaughter at Pearl High School with his .45 after lives were lost while he retrieved his .45 from his car, where it was required by law to be kept. ( Had legally licensed school principles and teachers been able to carry their gun on school property none would have died) Restaurant's owner, James Strand stopped a killers rampage in Edinboro, Pennsylvania saving the lives of 240 students at a school dance a full eleven minutes before police arrived. One teacher John Gillette, 48, was killed *Guns are used 2. 5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2. 5 million times every year or about 6,850 times a day 20. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. (Kleck and Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime) * Of the 2. 5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker. (Kleck and Gertz, "Armed Resistance to Crime) * Anti-gun Clinton researchers in a effort to discredit that study claimed that firearms are used in self defense saved ONLY 1. 5 million lives a year. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are only 1. 5 million cases of self-defense with a firearm every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America" a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig * As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse. (Kleck, Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America,) * Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606) (Kleck, Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America,) * Only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The error rate' for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high." (George F. Will, "Are We a Nation of Cowards'?," Newsweek) * Concealed Weapon Permit holders are the single most law abiding segment of the population. More law abiding than doctors, judges, law enforcement and ministers (From FBI crimes statistics) Since I have cited Dr. Kleck several times I thought it worth while to note that Kleck began his research as a firm believer in gun control. But in a speech delivered to the National Research Council, he said while he was once "a believer in the antigun' thesis," he has now moved "beyond even the skeptic position." Dr. Kleck is a professor in the school of criminology and criminal justice at Florida State University, a member of the ACLU, Amnesty International USA, and Common Cause. He is not and has never been a member of or contributor to any advocacy group on either side of the gun control debate. "Armed Resistance to Crime" won Dr. Kleck the prestigious American Society of Criminology Michael J. Hindelang award. This award is given for the book published that makes the most outstanding contribution to criminology.

  • Dan Springhorn 09/23/2008 2:01:00 AM

    Glad we live here where gun-ownership isn't something that a parent need question-everyone owns them, 'cept a few wierdos who think they can wave a cellphone at a home-invader.

  • Barry 09/21/2008 7:03:00 AM

    Can't blame patrol folks. Out here in the lovely City of Lakes, some neighborhoods are still as safe as they were in the 1950's... But in a few spots--you take your life in your hands if you're out past sunset. I wish all our neighbors would get together and march in the streets every night. Race schmace, we all wanna survive another day!

  • Mike Cheney 09/20/2008 8:00:00 PM

    Mike O have a question: When someone kicks your door in and holds you at gunpoint and says they are going to kill you how is your insurance policy going to save your life? Last time I heard paper doesn't stop anything. If you don't protect yourself no one else is going to. "Being defenseless doesn't make sheep safe from predators, it's the same way with humans. Learn to take care of yourself."

  • Mike 0 09/20/2008 6:01:00 AM

    "or maybe even when they chaperoned the...kids on their way to school," yeah, thanks for getting my kids shot in a crossfire. Been in the Rainier Valley some 15 years now, escaped from L.A., raised my kids, worked my jobs and guess what? Mind your own business and ppl leave you alone! Imagine that! Worried about burglary? That's what insurance is for. Love to see what happens when one of these nutbars puts a stray round through some kids' bedroom

  • Alvo 09/18/2008 9:57:00 PM

    Congratulations to this group. Their are using their own time and energy to do something positive, not just waiting around to become victims.

  • Mike Cheney 09/17/2008 5:09:00 AM

    What Katie said was just racist all together. We are just concerned citizens and if some of us are armed so be it it is our LRGAL right to be. You cant accept some rights and discriminate against other rights that people have. Maybe you should go back to school and study the bill of rights. Us walking is separate from my 2nd amendment group and my group is open to all races, political parties, genders etc so i don't know how you can say we are racist vigilantes when its all a lie.

  • Stanley V. Paskavich 09/16/2008 1:59:00 AM

    Here's something I wrote you might want to pass along. From The Soul of an American Every year they put it to the test, but, the Second Admendment stands the best. The right to own arms in a country that's free, is a loyal display of our integrity. For hunting or self protection guns can be great, and in a last chance Militia they can help with our fate. I've carried a weapon when I served my country, and swore with an oath to keep America free. But, freedoms and liberties are getting thinner each day, as the Constitution's words are slowly melting away. This country was protected with powder and shot, and the hearts of the Milita who won't be forgot. Not only did their squirrel guns put food on their plate, they gave us this NATION WE ALL SEE AS GREAT! Stanley V. Paskavich Author of Stantasyland

  • Katie 09/15/2008 8:10:00 PM

    What's missing from this article is race. By the sound of people's name, this sounds like whitey vigilantes fed up and scared of living in the diverse neighborhood that is Beacon Hill. People running around with guns and terrorizing people of color is nothing new, it's just an adjunct to the Seattle Police's harrassment. Which, incidentally, happens constantly on Beacon Hill.

  • Gar 09/13/2008 12:11:00 PM

    "Aimee, I am glad you did this article because now I can comment on this topic. The Beacon Hill listserve is littered with overly-sensitive whiners: I read it, but will never post there because anything negative or positive will be met with typical Seattle "I'm just looking to take umbrage" sentimentality." Amen. Face it, crime is here, cops are not. I grew up in Beacon Hill knowing people that have been mugged, robbed, beaten up, including my brother, and myself. Given that, it is a right to bear arms, and I believe that carrying a legal weapon in self defense in an environment where violence involving guns may be used against you or your loved ones, and where crime is prevalent, is not something that should be condemned.

  • Anthony 09/10/2008 11:54:00 AM

    Whether you're against CPLs or not, and for increased gun control or not, what disappoints me about the knee-jerk liberal response to 2nd amendment talk is the fact that conversations always end up veering completely away from the danger that arouses 2nd amendment espousal (crime committed with guns) but also points fingers at the people who try to lawfully abide (people who in all likelihood won't commit crime with guns). I'm of the opinion that the average person has no need for a handgun. However, I'm shocked at the lack of response to the illegally-procured guns that infect criminally infested areas of cities, and equally shocked at the fingerpointing that ensues between gun owners and gun opponents. All the while, our high taxes have little police enforcement to show for it, crime continues, and everyone's mad at each other. At least the gun owners have one thing right for sure: focus on reducing the crime first. THEN we can talk about legal gun ownership bein really necessary, because that's what brought it up in the first place.

  • Mike Cheney 09/10/2008 2:34:00 AM

    For those who are interested we will be meeting Sept. 20th at 10 am at the I Hop in Bellevue located at 14747 20th Ave. NE it is open to everyone so come out and all are welcome. If you need further ingo. just e-mail me at redboneshadow@yahoo.com I am willing to answer any questions either pro or against.

  • joe momma 09/09/2008 3:06:00 AM

    Fuck Roberta Carlson. That is your typical liberal response to the 2nd! I bet she wouldn't say that shit if one of those thugs was on her fat ass robbing her or raping her. Then she would blame the police or whine for higher taxes so that this liberal govt. could piss it away on some liberal do-good (but no real action) BS program. Again...FUCK HER AND HER WHINNY ASS!

  • nelson muntz 09/06/2008 11:29:00 AM

    Look what having a concealed weapon did for that guy McKown at the Tacoma Mall shooting. He thought he was gonna be a hero but ended up a victim and paralyzed for life. Guns don't kill people... people kill people.. but guns make it way easier.

  • Mike Cheney 09/06/2008 7:01:00 AM

    Let me make this clear. We are NOT an armed patrol that is in error. Yes I am the president of a 2nd amendment group here in Seattle but this group that walks is separate. We are just concerned citizens walking our neighborhoods. If someone is armed that is their right under the 2nd amendment. Our purpose here is to report anything we see to the police not act as vigilantes or police officers. I have lived here for 51 years and I care about this neighborhood. Use of force by the way is only used if your life or the life of another citizen is in grave danger and yes I would protect anyone who was about to be killed.

  • Joshua Lynch 09/06/2008 3:51:00 AM

    Great, that spot they mention--15th Avenue South and South Massachusetts Street--I just moved three blocks away from it with my two college roomies. Having been a Capitol Hill rat for two years, what bothers me most now about my new neighborhood is how much I hear about homes being burglarized. I can't afford to come home to find my expensive camera and computer gear gone--not to mention another bike. How do I feel about my neighbors patrolling with their guns? To Mike Cheney: You don't need guns on your patrol. Just the fact that a group of people are willing to go for a walk to keep their neighborhood safe will help. The guns are just worthless and dangerous baggage. We don't need another Cheney capping someone in a freak accident. Yet again, a great piece of reporting from the folks at SW and Aimee Curl. Where was the Seattle Times on this?

  • vanderleun 09/05/2008 11:11:00 AM

    ""I'm not in favor of a neighborhood vigilante group. The thought of people walking around with guns, no matter what their intentions are, is a little scary." If they are trying to kill or rob you, that's when it gets scary. Really scary.

  • Daniel Smith 09/05/2008 4:48:00 AM

    Very interesting article. I live in another neighborhood that is labeled as high crime, the Central District in Seattle. I think it's one thing to be vigilant about your own neighborhood, but quite another to essentially be looking for trouble. And if this group finds it, how will they respond exactly? Is someone in this group going to pull out a gun if they see a drug deal (or think they see a drug deal)? Make a citizen's arrest? What's scary to me is the lack of training and the impression left that this is a vigilante mob. I don't think there's anything wrong with walking your neighborhood at night to help prevent crime, but aren't you inviting trouble by announcing to the world that you're walking around with guns? Why not leave the house without a weapon and call the police if you see something suspicious?

  • Gretchen 09/04/2008 6:02:00 AM

    Great article, great idea.

  • Beacon Hill Res 09/04/2008 1:51:00 AM

    Aimee, I am glad you did this article because now I can comment on this topic. The Beacon Hill listserve is littered with overly-sensitive whiners: I read it, but will never post there because anything negative or positive will be met with typical Seattle "I'm just looking to take umbrage" sentimentality. Screw 'em. The area being patrolled is one of the nastiest places in this city and the cops won't do squat about it. I've seen drug deals in the parking lot of the gnarly apartment building north of the Charlemange (this one has no name - just a no-trespassing sign) at 7:30 a.m. when moms are walking their kids to the bus stop. I've stepped over syringes on sidewalks just steps away from where a homeowner or renter was pulling weeds in his yard and pointed it out to him in case he wasn't wearing gloves. I'm bothered by crime in this neighborhood, but when I voiced this concern on another Beacon Hill blog on a post which dealt with crime rates in our area, another poster accused me of being a white yuppie (not either) and racist. So, thanks for doing this article so that I could get this off my chest. I'm sure I'll get called a white yuppie (OK, I'll take the white-yuppie paycheck if you're offering). And as I posted before, I don't see how being concerned about the safety of your neighborhood has to do with what race or tax bracket you're in. THAT sort of thinking implies that any nonwhite person doesn't give a damn about their community - and THAT, Beacon Hill whiners, is racist thinking. For shame.

  • mikey 09/03/2008 11:38:00 PM

    I have no problem with a law that lets people carry a concealed weapon. My problem is with a state like Wa. that requires no formal training to get one. And I have a problem with the sheer numbers of people packing these days. The front page story in Sundays Kitsap Sun was the large number of people with CPLs, and 100% increase in permits issued since 2004. The mental case who went on a rampage Tuesday killing 6 could have been stopped a number of times by citizens carrying concealed weapons legally. Where were they? My point is, most attacks like this take people by surprise, whether they take place at schools, the mall, etc., and in almost every case the shooter either takes his own life, or surrenders without incident to the police. So having all our citizens packing heat accomplishes what exactly? Just asking.

 

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